Is Jesus Still Omnipresent?

I heard an interesting question which caused me to reflect for a while. The question, “Did Jesus regain His omnipresence when He went back to heaven?

In one of my other articles, “An Aussie vs. Dwight Nelson: “Trinity Under Fire” I shared how our Aussie friend’s website promotes the a theory “…that Christ at some point in ages past originated from God, that Christ at some point had an origin.” I’ve also pointed out in “Our Mediator and the Holy Spirit” that the group also promotes that the Holy Spirit can be either Christ’s spirit, God’s spirit, or a combination of both. For the record, I don’t agree with either.

The question posed at the very beginning must be taken into consideration when dealing with such a theory. It would then make sense that Christ would have had to have taken on omnipresence after the resurrection; or perhaps even maintained His omnipresence and omnipotence during His earthly ministry in order for His own Spirit to be the Holy Spirit.

Now, I must pause here and issue a warning to myself to be careful here when dealing with anything God; be it God the Father, God the Son, or the Holy Spirit. I believe that many in our church trying to do a good thing in defending their belief of a Triune God, they have stepped over the boundaries and made too many assumptions. I also believe that because of them, site’s like that of our Aussie friend have come to life rebutting where our church has overstepped thus creating one big chain of over reaction reacting to over reaction, which then causes others to respond by over reacting to the over reaction…did you follow that logic?

In dealing with this subject, I must tread softly and be open to God’s leading and only deal with what He has chosen to reveal to us, otherwise I find myself in the same boat, and the only outcome every time is damaging to God. This is holy ground, and none of us, not I, nor Whidden, Moon1, our Aussie friend, or anyone are worthy to enter this territory. Too many times when we enter and bring God down to our level, we sully God’s word and as a result lives are eternally lost because of it. Our own self-righteous attitude(s) many times deny the humility we should take in dealing with such a topic. John Harvey Kellogg2 and the likes of him have done untold damage to God’s character as a result. As I undertake this, please understand, like the other mentioned, this is but my personal interpretation and is only theory. God will some day, reveal His truth to us; until that time, I offer but a humble interpretation praying along the way that none of you will lose your faith or relationship with God over it.

A slight caution now; when you see someone who is forceful, unrelentingly pushing a theory of God not shown in scripture, it’s at that point that you must not only move away, but run away as fast as possible to guard your mind from being led astray.

Did Jesus regain omnipresence after returning to heaven? Is He omnipresent today?

Simple answer…I don’t know, period…we are not given an answer.

If I were to guess, and it’s totally a guess, I would propose that He is not. In thinking about how to deal with this, I ran across a presentation by Doug Batchelor3 which more or less sums up my thoughts on the subject. I must commend Pastor Doug in his careful, softly treading approach, and as a result, I wholeheartedly present more-so than any other so far, his comments on the subject. His humble approach is a model all our pastors, theologians, and leaders should strive to emulate.

Doug Batchelor shared this at a meeting he held earlier in 20124 and he said:

“Did Jesus lose His omnipresence when He came to this world? When we say omnipresence…when Jesus was on earth…we have God the Son on earth, He wasn’t all places at one time was He? He was…confined to one place.”

“When He ascended to Heaven, Is He now omnipresent? I believe Jesus is definitely omnipresent mentally in that through His divine powers He can see everybody. He said I will be with you through the Spirit in the Gospel of John.”

I must pause here and interject something because I know that many will take what I just said and twist it to suit or fill their agenda. I will point out that Pastor Doug did not say, nor did Jesus that, “I will be with you through my spirit.”

Continuing on:

“But physically it seems like He has to some extent sacrificed a dimension of His divinity. Because when He appeared after the resurrection He never appears more than one place at a time, does He? I mean even after he appears with the two in Emmaus; then at the upper room they get up there and he appears again. But he didn’t appear in the upper room and at Emmaus at the same time. He appears at the tomb to Mary, later to Peter, then in the upper room, a week later. And He said it’s expedient for you that I go home because I can only be with you, I’m paraphrasing, here now. But the Holy Spirit can be with you where ever you go. He said I can be with you where ever you go through the Spirit.”

“So Jesus has forever married Himself to the Human family in the incarnation. That’s the way I understand it. But again I’m on Holy ground and I may be wrong, but that’s what I see in the word.”

Notes:

  1. Jerry Moon, John W. Reeve, and Woodrow Whidden are Adventist theologians who co-wrote wrote a book, “The Trinity” (see my comments in “An Aussie vs. Dwight Nelson: “Trinity Under Fire“) in defense of the Adventist triune God theory. []
  2. John Harvey Kellogg was an Adventist holistic medical doctor who developed a non-biblical theory of God. See John Harvey Kellogg for further information. []
  3. Doug Batchelor is an Adventist pastor, evangelist, and author. He is speaker director of Amazing Facts see http://www.dougbatchelor.com/ and http://amazingfacts.org for more information. []
  4. Doug Batchelor’s comments were transcribed by me from a presentation listed at the GYC Southeast’s website. It was accessed April 8, 2012. []

6 comments for “Is Jesus Still Omnipresent?

  1. Dave
    November 21, 2013 at 11:39 pm

    I am also on Holy ground and am not afraid to say Jesus is most definetly omnipresent. It’s not strange for the great high priest to be all God and all man. The sacrafice is clearly the dearh on the cross not the extermination of His Devine attributes. The bible says in Colosions that he assended into heaven to fill the universe and hold all things together by His mighty power. End of debate

    • ATadmin
      November 22, 2013 at 11:43 am

      Dave, I wrote a more brief response to you, but sadly all was lost; this is my second attempt.

      The 10 Commandments is the only settled debate because God Himself wrote them out. I’m sure when we all get to heaven God will reveal to each of us the many truths we all missed out on because of our own selfish hearts and desires. Remember, while Christ was on earth, people called him a fool and a lunatic. What you deem “strange” may seem clear to others, just as what other’s deem strange may seem clear to you. Yet that doesn’t make either of you right, per se. All scripture is to be weighted against the Bible as a whole. God did not reveal to us what you say and we can only truly know the day He decides to reveal it to us.

      Your use of Ephesians 4:8 (not Colossians) is misused. That verse has nothing to do with Christ’s omnipotence but rather what Christ gives us. In order to understand it, you must look at the whole context and read vss. 1-11, and then some. I like how this writer puts it:

      “What Paul is explaining in this ‘parenthetical’ section (verses 8-10) using an OT quotations(sic) is how Christ was enabled in the divine plan of God to give the gift described in Ephesians 4:7. Paul wants the saints to know that although the gift is free, there was a great cost that had to be paid to make this bestowal of grace available. And so Paul proceeds to tie the giving of gifts to the triumphant ascension of Christ. He explains that it is Christ’s exaltation to the right hand of His Father that makes possible for Him to give gifts to men. And so Paul turn(sic) to Psalm 68:18 to illustrate beautifully what Christ did for us.”

      I encourage you to look at the Bible as a whole, look at the context to fully understand, and most of all pray for God to give you the Holy Spirit so that you can understand what He wants you to understand and not what some person tells you you should believe. Hope that’s of some help to you.

  2. danielle
    August 23, 2014 at 2:24 am

    I appreciate the way in which you broached the subject and agree 100%. Also, I would like to add that just like Dave said “He will fill the earth” and He is with us alway, even unto the end…but could this not be through the Holy Spirit as the Godhead are one and the Holy Spirit was sent to comfort and lead us and much more?
    I think sometimes we put bounds and try to make sense of things we do not have either the mental capacity or knowledge to do so with complete confidence because we ‘need’ to have a concrete belief and can’t just trust in God without feeling we know all.
    I do not know the answer for certain, but right now the above article makes sense to me after much deliberation and research. Thank you.

  3. Son of man
    May 2, 2015 at 2:18 pm

    Hello children of the one true living God, please pray that you will be accounted worthy to escape the hour of temptation that is going to come upon the entire world. And pray that you will also be accounted worthy to stand in the presence our Lord Jesus Christ, the Son of God.

  4. Kevon
    March 7, 2017 at 8:32 am

    I had first heard this expressed earlier this year by on Sabbath School Study Hour and then I found this article months ago.

    Today I was reading this article and realise that Sis. White was basically suggesting if not saying the same thing:

    Article: http://everlasting-gospel.blogspot.com/2009/05/how-can-holy-spirit-divest-of-something.html

    Her Quote: “Cumbered with humanity, Christ could not be in every place personally. Therefore it was for their interest that He should go to the Father, and send the Spirit to be His successor on earth.”
    ~ Desire of Ages, p. 669

    So in other words because Christ was hindered by humanity He could not be everywhere at once.

    However this thought came to mind and it’s not something that could be answered within this context: but how will every eye see Him if He’s not omnipresent? Time will reveal.

    • ATadmin
      May 13, 2017 at 6:53 pm

      @ Kevon, my site had been hacked and I finally have been able to reclaim it. Very interesting thought, but you know, some things we must leave to God to reveal to us in His time. After-all, we can’t even comprehend eternity, let alone figure out how the whole world will see Christ. Some things are best left to future explanations.

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